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A new interview with Eric Schmidt on his new book Genesis: https://youtu.be/AjgwIRPnb_M?si=OdInlfcVL4rzfP9g&t=1596 For him, the U.S. is only a year ahead of China in AI—a gap that seems to fuel his anxieties as he thought the U.S. to be ahead two to three years. A new open-source model in China rivals—and even outperforms in some areas—Meta’s LLaMA 3 (400 billion parameters). He raised again his concerns about open-source AI being used for malicious purposes. Regarding China, he said being dependent is better than complete independence, as interdependence forces a degree of communication and understanding, which can reduce the risks of miscalculation or escalation in conflicts.

Schmidt also highlighted similar concerns regarding U.S. open-source AI systems. He pointed out the risks of model exfiltration, where bad actors could steal powerful AI models developed by leading U.S. companies like Google, Microsoft, or OpenAI, and use them maliciously on the dark web. He emphasized that neither the U.S. nor any other country currently has a framework to detect or manage such exfiltration effectively. He compared this proliferation risk to the spread of enriched uranium, which is closely monitored internationally, but noted the absence of equivalent monitoring systems for AI.

While Schmidt acknowledged the benefits of open-source AI for innovation, he warned that without proper safeguards, powerful models could be exploited for harm, ranging from misinformation campaigns to advanced cyberattacks. This dual vulnerability—posed by both U.S. and Chinese open-source AI—intensifies the urgency for global agreements on responsible use.

Schmidt strongly advocated for U.S.-China collaboration on AI, emphasizing that cooperation between the two leading AI powers is essential to mitigate global risks. He suggested bilateral agreements on responsible AI use, particularly regarding its weaponization, as such collaboration could address a significant portion of the global AI security threat. Echoing Kissinger’s realism, Schmidt argued that while the U.S. and China may never be close allies, strategic cooperation on AI is vital to manage its risks effectively and ensure its benefits for humanity. Link: https://youtu.be/AjgwIRPnb_M?si=OdInlfcVL4rzfP9g&t=1596

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